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is that democratcriticizepaul ryan for the premium support plan for medicare reform. the obamacare exchanges whi apply to people who are a low-middle income also is a premium support plan. so democrats have an argument against applying the obamacare racing just medicare? and mean, they like obamacare. what would be so terrible about migrating seniors into the obamacare exchange as a wayto reform medicare using a democratic approach. gerri: you're turning the law and set a little bit there. interesting florid for example , medicare and medicaid. very important. 27 percent of doctors are not accepting medicare patients right now. is that going to get better or worse? >> is going to get worse because the cost pressure and spending pressures of medicare, the politicians have cheated. when not going to reform the program to make it more efficient. eulogist pay doctors and hospitals less to cover this impatience. at a certain point doctors quit and house bills go broke. the medicare actuary says that 15 percent of all hospitals will go broke by the end of the decade because of these cuts. 30 percent by 2030. austral'
that really meets your needs and your budget? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand medicare and which aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with this type of plan, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. there's a range of plans to choose from, too. and they all travel with you. anywhere in the country. join the millions who have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement plans endorsed by aarp, an oanization serving the needs of people 50 and over for generations... and provided by unitedhealthcare insurance company, which has over 30 years of experience behind
of the budget which is all of those programs starting with medicare and medicaid. you can't get out of it without dealing with those, a and bowles is absolutely right. gerri: long way to go. thanks for coming on. appreciate your time. >> sure. thank you. gerri: as a reminder, the revenue from the bush tax cuts would generate just $82.4 billion a year, enough to run the government for five days. as president obama pushes for tax hikes on wealthier americans, he might look to britain to see the effect it has. it's not revenues. it's surprisingly less. after the labour party, that is, there, pushed for the top tax rate to 50%, 5-0, the richest left. two-thirds left to avoid paying the new tax. it also stopped people coming to and investing in britain. there's a lesson for you. turns out the proof is in the pudding realizing the errors of the way, the government is cutting the top rate to 45%. more to come like should washington sub di size wind energy? more on the fiscal cliff as americans on all levels have to prepare to take the tax hit. i hope it doesn't, but i'm going to break it d
. there going to have to show some kind of movement on medicare. either an increase in net the age, 67, 68, 69, or maybe make it means tested. democrats don't like means tested because they're afraid that will undercut, eventually that will undercut all of medicaid. going to have to have some reductions in medicare, medicaid. and you will have to do something about social security. if you don't do that i don't see how you have accomplished anything. tom: mr. mayor, you know that there is a lot of republicans that are saying i want smaller government, less spending, and tanana reform. don't take my check away from me >> but they have to face reelection in two years. you can read too much into this election. this was not a mandate. this was a popular vote to% election, even electoral votes when he looked at the states, separated by 2%, 3%, 4%. this was not some kind of major reelection when like reagan had, like even clinton had. clinton might think, won by 8%, reagan nine, ten, 11%. there is no real mandate here. so i can't see the republicans getting too overwhelmed by these ads. the president
long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male aouncer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. there's a wide range to choose from. w
in terms of the baby boomers getting older, which is social security and medicare, and then this new entitlement coming with the president's health care law. we know it is unworkable as a health care law. i can tell you as a doctor. it is unaffordable as a nation. that has to be part of the discussion as well. melissa: what about this idea that senate democrats are trying to limit the filibuster rule? you know, do you think that is a good idea? do you support that? do you think it would come back to bite them later on? >> well i oppose the idea that senator reid is proposing. i think it is a mistake to limit the rights of people who elected me and others to have the right to offer amendments and to have unlimited debate on the senate floor. you know, it is interesting when president obama was a senator and republicans were thinking about using this, he said, oh, no, it is terrible, it would destroy the institution and would hurt the country. same thing when senator biden was a senator spoke against it. when harry reid was in the minority he was against it. now they're in the majority
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know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand medicare and whh aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with this type of plan, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. there's a range of plans to choose from, too. and they all travel with you. anywhere in the country. join the millions who have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement pla endorsed by aarp, an organization serving the needs of people 50 and over for generations... and provided by unitedhealthcare insurance company, which has over 30 years of experience behind it. call today. remember, all medicare supplement pla
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on welfare that is more than defense and medicare combined. but we are talking about illegal immigrants that are given food stamps and they are not entitled to medicaid or medicare or social security. it is a food stamp program and set up with wether mexico is pulling up their fair share. >> and john, you go to the web site. anybody can go to the web site. welcome to america web site this is it just a page from it government ben fets and welcome to america here are the benefits and here are the freebeies. and depending on your immigration status and length of time in the u.s., you may be eligible for federal benefit programs and it goes through a long lit any and it is long and a lot of money. >> it is unfortunate. immigrants are treasures the arrival of each one makes us more american because it signifies. >> if they are here to work. >> absolutely. it is it the last thing you want to do is offer them hand out to come here. that insures that you get a lower quality person coming here. we want to attract those who want to come here and achieve. >> steve, that is it the problem. i would
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not even got into investor related taxes that goes up, medicare surcharge for well to do, i can go on and on with what states are doing with millon air taxes and the like that go -- are republicans missing this? >> you know, when you come int this argument, republicans are sort of going into this branding it as a revenue increase, they refuse to say tax increase, part of this, they say, you create a more efficient system in maybe you could lower rates maybe you get rid of some deductions, but that generates more economic activity, that is re money to be taxed. but, don't be mistaken, you are taking more money from the american population than you would be witho factoring in economic growth. talk about that cap, tax policy center says a 50,000 collar cap on -- 50,000 dollar cap on deduct, 750 bill i don't know over 10 years, that is real from come. neil: do you think that is what democrats are hinting at, when they say, it does not have to be a rate hike or bust? that they are quietly thinking, you know with this alternative, we could actually get more tax revenues. >> i think it wi
've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doe't pay all my medical expense i look at my options. then i got a medicare sulement insurance plan. [ male announc ] if you're elible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now andind out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance coany. it helps pick up some of what medica doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i'veeen with my doctor r years. now i know i'll be able to stick with hi [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visi any doctor or spital thatccepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request thisree decision gui to help you better understand medicare... and whh aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. there's a wide range to choosfrom. we love to travel -- and there's so much more to see. so we found a plan t
professionals who helped us achieve the highest average star rating among national medicare companies... and become the first and only national medicare advantage company to achieve a 5-star rating for a medicare plan... your efforts result in the quality of care and service we're able to provide... which means better health outcomes... and more quality time to share with the ones who matter most. i love you, grandma! [ male announcer ] humana. ♪ dave: negotiations in d.c. over taxes and the budget just got even more complicated. tracy: union supporters are stepping in now trying to persuade democrats to stand firm on entitlement and tax reform. rich edson is in washington d.c. with the details. they have got to give something and they don't want to. >> the 5 acknowledged leaders for democrats and republicans say they have got to put on comfortable things for them on the table. for republicans that means revenue through tax reform. for democrats that means entitlement and spending changes and unions are saying no way to any type of changes for medicare, medicaid and social security,
of revenue. for example, one of these ideas is raising the medicare eligibility age to 67 from 55. would sething like that work for you? would you be willing to sign onto an idea like that? >> i am interested in the entitlement rform. in order to make these programs available for those who have come to rely on them, for those who have come to expect that they will be there for them. in order to make sure it can survive we have to make adjustments like that. i have already introduced and co-sponsor of legislation that would do some of those things. absolutely i would be interested in discussions along those lines gerri: thank you for coming on. great to see you, and we hope to see you again oon. >> thank you, gerry. gerri: a lot more to ome, including with a potential tax increase living for capital gains. compies trying to get a jump on the fiscal cliff. details and the oracle of all my speaking out on tax policy. next, i'll break down why warren buffett is just plain wrong. ♪ gerri: warren buffett is getting a lot of attention this week for his comments on the fiscal cliff . basically
the deficit comes from some saves medicare and social security. it is that need hundred billion dollars that became permanent. >> absolutely. it did. here is the shocking thing about washington. every year the politicians try out these things like tom coburn trots out his waist book every year. hundreds of billions of dollars in identified waste, waste, fraud, duplicated services and every year they get on the camera and say this is terrible and horrible we need to do some good about it and they never do anything about it and folks like john boehner who doesn't even talk about eliminating fraud and waste and duplicated services. dave: the onus is on you and the other tea party years all over the country. where is that 2,010 tea party coalition? how can it be reenergize? how can it be put into effect again? >> you will see it in 2013. what is going to happen the republicans in the house of representatives are going to cave on taxes and spending and when that happens you will see that anger for lack of a better term you saw in 2009 is going to happen again. we will come back to the street
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to talk about social security, medicare, medicaid in any sense of the word. stuart: i just got numbers from medicare trustees. we have to pay out for medicare 42 trillion dollars in the future. we don't have that money. that's the unfunded liability of medicare. and the democrats won't go anywhere near cutting it or reforming it and so far we've not really heard from the republicans, what they would do with it. >> when you heard from paul ryan during the campaign again, he had no back-up. you have to sell these policies to people. you have to explain them in a way that resonates and they can see my daily life looks like this, this is how it is going to be impacted, this is how my children and grandchildren are going to be impacted. these government programs are not going to be here unless there's reform. stuart: can you get elected if you say i'm taking this away? >> i think you can get elected if you articulate it properly, do the outreach, do the marketing. the republican party did not take marketing 101. charles: ryan and romney seemed intimidated about saying we may take away your
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if democrats put entitlement reform on the table. medicare, medicaid, social security. there's a major effort by labor unions opposing that effort taking out advertising in states in missouri, pennsylvania, virginia, and elsewhere targeting members of congress to oppose any type of entitlement reform or changes. the group, in a statement says, elected officials from both parties need to listen to the will of the voters and focus on rebuilding the middle class and strengthening our economy by investing in jobs, not cuts. on the other side, conservatives say it's not a game changer because from unions, this is really nothing new. >> the fact they are publicly saying what they have been privately saying is helpful the american people understand where obama's intransigence comes from, but nothing's changed. >> they negotiated details this week of the grand fiscal cliff compromise that democrats and republicans hope to reach. lawmakers back in town neex week, and there's a meeting loosely scheduled in the white house against top democrats and republicans in congress with president obama. dagen? da
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that theo personalty not policy, let's talk about the issue, is medicare going bankrupt or not, senator dirk durban saying we have to tackle medicare or it will be bankrupt in 12 years. let's talk about that instead of norquist, he is one of the most selfless guys in politics. you know this is a reagannesque parts of the soul of the republican party, if some want to break their own pledge to voters not to raise taxes they can do that and be account able. lou: there is not a reagan nesque figure in the republican party right now who is the intellectual leader right now? what group of the republican party? the governors? >> kelly ann is right, governors, there are 38 republican governors, there will be after the first of the year. we'll see who emerges. lou: striking you are not hearing speaker boehner or mitch mcconnell. >> when have congressional leaders been major lead irs of their party, they are wheel ordealers. >> politics abhors a vacuum. lou: governors are nation -- >> but, several are chief executives. i want to stick up for mcconnell and boehner, they are playing hand theying dealt,
deficits and medicare, small enough it's somewhat of a side show. the idea that we're picking on themmen they're not getting the right deal, get out to the real world. >> eve. >> don't blame them, federal workers, this isn't their fault. yes, they're going to have give more. and in favor of union representation and union representation say hey, leave us alone, it's good for them, but overall, everybody's going to have to give, everybody. >> brenda: gary b. >> look, if it's the federal workers have it so bad, try to get a job in the federal sector, it's almost impossible these days, that's how bad it is >> brenda: but, jonas, there have been layoffs from the federal sectors as well. >> they haven't had as hard as states. states had to get their budgets going tighter before the federal government. the federal government nois only starting to address the workers so i think that the state workers are taking it harder than the federal workers and now the federal workers ve to join the misery of the state workers in tightening budgets. >> brenda: tough times for everybody, thanks, guys. most y
to entitlements, medicare and social security. they are also going to address spending in ways that democrats are not going to be happy about. so everybody is going to have to sort of cave here, it would seem. stuart: there has to be compromise on the other side as well as republicans on tax. maybe the democrats have to compromise on entitlement reform at some point. they haven't yet. sandra: grover norquist has already come out and said nobody is caving here, if they do, it is just a trap the republicans are falling into. and this is going to be horrible for republicans, especially in the next election. liz: he also pointed out that george h.w. bush won gulf war one and then really lost reelection. the berlin wall fell under george hw and then lost reelection because he broke read my lips. norquist says in the republican brand you don't raise taxes. as for entitlement reform, democrats, many says we don't need entitlement reform, we want entitlements to be solvent, that's the issue there. stuart: the president will be on the road this week. i don't doubt for one moment he will keep pushing h
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